Thursday, February 4, 2010

Obama’s Income Cap

Obama’s Income Cap
Don Pettygrove 2010

I find myself becoming more and more disgusted with the liberal left haters in this country. It seems the primary objection that they have is that there are others, not them, that have been blessed with abilities that they have put to their fullest and best use and made significant sums of money.

I arrive at this perspective by listening to the objections of the Obama administration and virtually all of his supporters that I have spoken to. Virtually all of them express anger at the “large corporations”, “military industrial complex”, “big business”, “rich”, “wealthy”, “fortunate”, “big oil”, and any number of other “bigs”. This all appears to be nothing more than pure and simple jealousy that some have made it big and done so well in life while they have been relegated to the mediocre, mundane “average”.

The president wants to punish all of those that have succeeded in life as if they have come into others homes and stolen what they have from the “less fortunate”. He is going to punish the bankers, the oil barons, the investment advisors and as he put it in his campaign, anyone that makes more than $250,000 (or $200,000 depending on the instance). That, apparently, is where he draws the line between anything that is a responsible wage and those that are just in it to selfishly take from others even though they already have “enough”.

Doing a little research on the Treasury Department web page, one can come up with some interesting facts, though the complainers do not like facts because they tend to disprove much that they have built their jealous hatred upon. The latest data available is from the 2007 tax year.

My quest concerned what would the effect of Obama’s desire to cap pay at some arbitrary level as he has indicated he would. I was interested in this because Obama wants to redistribute the wealth and give it to others less “fortunate”. Suspecting that those who make significant wages pay the bulk of income taxes in the country, I wanted to determine how much of the federal income would be destroyed were Obama to succeed.

I chose arbitrarily, the magical $1 million dollar income level to evaluate. This is four times his stated value of “wealthy” but an interesting point to evaluate as it turns out. Treasury Department records show that the point at which half the total income is above and half below turns out to be roughly $160,000 annual income. At that point roughly $3 trillion dollars of income lies above that earnings level and the same amount below.

The division point that I chose ($250,000) has roughly 21% of the total above and the remaining 79% below. At that income level, those above that point pay roughly 28% of the total income tax collected. This, contrary to common perception, is well more than their fair share of taxes. If Obama decided he wanted to cap the income of individuals at $1 million, that would translate to a reduction of income taxes paid to the federal treasury of roughly $310 billion. Total income taxes paid in 2007 was $1.115 trillion. This results in the treasury loosing 27.8% of its revenue by not allowing anyone to make more than $1 million. This would affect the tax returns of only 391,261 out of 96,270,000 total returns or 0.4% of the total returns.

I found it quite amazing that the top 0.4% of income earners in this country paid 27.8% of the total individual income tax paid. Who says that they don’t pay their fair share of taxes? I am offended that anyone could ever make such a totally wrong headed and idiotic statement. Another amazing fact is that all income earners below $200,000 taxable income pay roughly the same amount of total tax but it takes 91.7 million returns to provide the same amount as the top 391,000 taxpayers do. What is fair about that?

Another interesting fact is that of the 48.5 million tax returns filed by individuals making $50,000 or less, only slightly more than 3 million actually pay any taxes at all. Keep in mind that that is $50,000 in taxable income, after all deductions.

The end result of all this is that were Obama to be successful in his desires to punish the “rich” and cap their income, even at the “exorbitant” level of $1 million, he would end up with an additional annual debt of $310 billion dollars by in effect, taxing it away. Does this jealousy make any sense to you?

The looters talk about the greed of the "rich" yet one definition of greed is covetousness of what someone else has and has earned. The looters don't care about what one earns. To them, if they have more, it is ill-gotten gain. They must redistribute it because someone else would have had it if the person that has it hadn't. How ludicrous that argument is. There are millions of new dollars of new wealth created every day through the work and toil of people. Nothing is lost, it is all gained by work.

7 comments:

  1. Great post, Don. Don't you get sick and tired of being told you're the problem, when you know you're the solution? Keep writing!

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  2. Jealousy? Are you being serious? You're ignorant.

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  3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OtB298fHY

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  4. The rich are not hated out of jealousy; they're hated because their money makes it convenient for them to believe that they've earned their money fair and square, that hard work brings reward, and that the world is a level playing field—all lies in reality. Any attempt to argue for these in the face of the factual inability for those born poor to become rich and vice-versa (you like facts, right?) invariably leads to to a position of social Darwinism, and any examples to the contrary are solely anecdotal.

    I earned a Ph.D. in my field of choice and am now a professor; I make a little over $50k/year. I am an expert in my discipline and I work about 55-60 hours per week. Can someone who makes a million dollars (to use your number) really believe he is twenty times more hard-working, prepared, intelligent, or useful than I am? Certainly not (or rather, of course they *can* believe it—wealth causes you to lose perspective utterly).

    The only way out of this quandry is to decide instead that my chosen career path, for all the training and expertise I have, must simply not be as good (read: high-paying) as what rich people do—otherwise there'd be more money around for it, right? I mean, the market determines value, right? If this is the case, then the following career paths are wholly without value, and should probably be eliminated:

    * Education
    * Literature
    * The arts
    * Charity work
    * Firefighting
    * Manual labor

    The list goes on. The right continually bemoans that the US is falling behind in manufacturing, education, and other fields, all while failing financially to support even the best and brightest workers in those paths.

    People don't go into these fields because they're stupid; they go into them because they have a passion for something other than money. Does this make them lesser people?

    Your tax bracket argument is ridiculous. Are you really going to complain that a multimillionaire consultant has to pay two percent more in taxes than his kid's fifth-grade teacher? Instead of asking how much he's paying, how about compare how many real dollars each gets to keep. And compare it to the alternative: the old right wing argument that taxes should be flat (or even regressive) because it incentivizes earning, causing the poor to work harder and therefore climb out of their hole is insulting to everyone involved. Is being rich really not incentive enough on its own? Has any poor person ever really thought, "Man, I'd work harder to make more money if only my life was even worse!"?

    It's this kind of lack of perspective that being wealthy (or worse, that being the destitute Tea Party bumpkins who somehow buy into the lie that they might one day get rich) instills. Again, we don't hate you because we want your money; we certainly don't hate you because we want to be like you otherwise (your friend's self-righteous post complaining of "being told you're the problem, when you know you're the solution" makes me want to vomit); we hate you because when you make arguments like the one you outline here, you reveal yourself to be unintelligent at best, and in all likelihood, completely soulless.

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  5. thats right this article is bullshit. people are tired of working harder than you and still fighting to feed themselves, while you sit on your ass all day and get t-bones on the regular.

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  6. what about a salary cap for certain jobs like in sports? then if they go over the cap fine, just give their employees a raise or hire more people. there just seems to be a point were people become well dressed hogs! instead of hoarding junk they hoard money and this slows economic drive. people should be rewarded for hard work but when a ceo make more that a hundred employees thats a problem. i have a cap on my job and i believe i make enough. i dont think the answer is taxing the rich. the problem is income distribution. the tax base would broaden and although the rich would not be filthy rich, they would be comfortably so and not nagged so much. of corse i could also be full of it.

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  7. True fiscal conservatismMay 18, 2012 at 5:18 AM

    The Republicans' arguement that we're spending too much as a nation is a joke, as is the Tea Party's. They want to hoard all the money, like Eddie Conard. We, as a nation, could not only balance the budget, we could pay off the national deficit in five to ten years easily. The solution is to lower the corporate tax rate for millionaires making 5 million or more per year to zero. At the same time, cap their salaries at 5 million per year and have every penny they make over 5 million per year funneled toward paying off the national debt. If we as a nation did this for five years, it would make a HUGE impact on balancing the budget and actually paying down the debt we owe. The money these super pacs are wasting to buy campaigns would be used much better to pay off the debt, since much of our debt comes from corporations and billionaires stealing money from the government.

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